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greetings citizens and welcome to

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I'm Jason McClellan thanks for hanging

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out with me it's highly likely that if

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you've been following UFO related news

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you've noticed a seemingly singular

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focus in the world of UFOs on those

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three Navy UFO videos that were brought

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to the world's attention by Lewis

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Elizondo and to the stars Academy of

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Arts and Science all the way back in

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December of 2017 in case you're not

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keeping track

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this is 2019 nearing the end of 2019 to

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be specific so has there really been

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nothing else ufo-related worth

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discussing for nearly two years besides

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these three videos well hopefully you

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already know the answer to that question

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the answer is of course there has been

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as I routinely state UFO related stories

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are covered by media outlets around the

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world every day so why are the tick tack

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gimbal and go fast UFO videos still

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generating headlines today and garnering

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so much attention well first the fact

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that these videos are sourced from the

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US military is a big reason knowing that

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these videos come from Navy fighter

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pilots rather than some random guy in

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the middle of nowhere makes them more

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credible to most people and because we

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reportedly have supplemental and

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corroborating radar evidence and

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eyewitness testimony from military

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personnel these videos collectively make

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a truly fascinating case but most of the

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credit for the long lasting high-profile

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attention on these videos goes to to the

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Stars Academy itself T TSA has created a

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powerful vehicle for generating stories

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because its founder Tom DeLonge is a

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rock star his star power gives the

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company the ability to choose when and

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where it wants certain stories published

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there are plenty of reasons to continue

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discussing these videos in my opinion

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these three UFO videos do merit ongoing

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discourse but why specifically

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am i bringing these videos up again

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today I'm glad you asked I've repeatedly

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stated my personal opinion yes just my

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opinion that the objects we see in these

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Navy UFO videos are not extraterrestrial

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in nature would rather some new

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technology being tested by the Navy

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we've mentioned a few items on this show

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in the past like Admirals aboard ships

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involved with these incidents seemingly

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unfazed by the encounters carefully

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crafted non-committal answers by Navy

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spokespeople and testimony from one of

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the primary participants commander David

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flavor who has stated in multiple

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interviews including his appearance on

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the Joe Rogan experience that his bosses

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aboard the ship were surprisingly

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uninterested

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according to favor there are lots of

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false stories out there about people

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being questioned tapes being confiscated

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etc but according to favor none of that

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happened very little if anything was

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made of the pilot encounters with UFOs

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at the time we also know that according

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to those involved the Navy was fully

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aware that these mysterious aerial

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objects were in the area yet didn't

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cancel training exercises or even notify

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its pilots these are just a few of the

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interesting details that lead me to

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believe the Navy knows what those UFOs

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are but why do I think that just because

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the Navy might know the identity of the

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objects captured in the UFO videos that

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these aren't et spacecraft well it's

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certainly not because I don't think that

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some of the UFOs seen in the skies

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around the world every day could be

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extraterrestrial I'm even happy to

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entertain the possibility that some of

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the UFOs I've personally witnessed could

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be extraterrestrial but when it comes to

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the Navy UFO videos everything just

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points to new Navy technology to me I

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think the first thing that got me

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thinking along these lines was the fact

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that both the East Coast and West Coast

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incidents that are captured on these

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videos took place during training

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exercises

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that seemed pretty coincidental then the

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comments from Navy personnel about how

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these UFOs followed the fleet for months

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only amplified my suspicions and here's

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the real reason I'm bringing this up

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today on Thursday November 7th

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Brett tinguely published a story on the

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drive calm titled the Navy's secretive

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and revolutionary program to project

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false fleets from drone swarms wait what

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okay this story definitely got my

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attention we know that during both the

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East Coast and West Coast incidents Navy

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personnel reported seeing fleets of UFOs

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on the radar systems and now we're

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hearing about Navy technology that can

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fool people and systems into thinking

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that a fleet of objects is present when

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in fact there's nothing there at all

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according to the story this new

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secretive electronic warfare system is

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called the NetID emulation of multi

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element signature against integrated

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sensors or the much easier acronym

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nemesis the article explains quote for

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integrating multiple types of unmanned

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vehicles shipboard and submarine systems

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countermeasures and electronic warfare

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payloads and communication technologies

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to give it the ability to project what

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is in essence phantom fleets of aircraft

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ships and submarines these realistic

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looking false signatures and decoys have

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the ability to appear seamlessly across

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disparate and geographically separate

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enemy sensor systems located both above

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and below the ocean's surface as a

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result this Network and cooperative

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electronic warfare concept brings an

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unprecedented level of guileful fidelity

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to the fight it's not just about

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disrupting the enemy's capabilities or

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confusing them at a command and control

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level but also about making their

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sensors tell them the same falsehoods

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across large swathes of the battle space

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the article points to a 20-17 center for

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strategic and budgetary assessments or

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CSB a white paper titled winning in the

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gray zone using electromagnetic warfare

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to regain escalation dominance this

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white paper describes fleets of

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expendable unmanned aerial systems that

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quote incorporate cognitive processing

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and coordinate their actions through

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communication networks in quote Bret

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tingly again the author of the article

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on the drive comm explains that this

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means quote they can share data in

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real-time and operate semi autonomously

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to jam an adversary sensor act as or

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release decoys gather targeting

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information and detect and map air

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defense networks unquote this is pretty

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wild high-tech futuristic stuff Tingley

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further adds quote aside from providing

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fire and communication support the

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Nemesis system was said to be capable of

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creating viable false targets that would

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increase the number of potential targets

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an adversary would have to engage these

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false targets would mimic the RF

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emissions and radar returns of real

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platforms and include infrared decoys

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and concepts and capabilities to

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simulate the computer network activity

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of deployed forces in quote this is also

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really interesting he says that the

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Nemesis system also included underwater

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high fidelity acoustic decoys they can

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generate additional targets the article

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explains quote these acoustic decoys can

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include radio emulators and simulate the

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Pella noise or other propulsion systems

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as well as specific equipment on surface

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ships and submarines

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end quote the Center for Strategic and

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budgetary assessments whitepaper I

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mentioned described using small unmanned

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electronic warfare systems launched from

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either high-altitude balloons or

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undersea platforms like submarines or

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unmanned underwater vehicles to create

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these effects we know that at least in

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the case of the tic-tac West Coast UFO

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incident pilots reported seeing

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underwater disturbances

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perhaps objects coming out of the water

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as well as objects coming from extremely

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high altitudes so that's fascinating to

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consider recent unclassified budget

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justification statements explain that

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it's during fleet experimentation and

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during focused field and laboratory

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tests that the capabilities of the

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Nemesis expendable decoys were

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demonstrated according to the article

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the Navy's 2015 program guide mentions

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that the Navy conducted a wargame in

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2015 to test the nemesis system this is

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worth noting because again remember that

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the tick-tack go fast and gimble videos

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are all from periods of fleet testing

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war games etc it's a foregone conclusion

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that the military has advanced

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technology we don't know about we're now

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hearing about this wild nemesis system

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but we only know bits and pieces about

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it at the time of both training

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exercises during which the Navy UFO

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videos were captured brand-new

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state-of-the-art radar equipment was

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being used however based on the reported

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capabilities of its advanced electronic

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warfare system the Navy currently has

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the ability to project false fleets in

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both the air and sea and actively jam

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control and give false information to

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radar systems the reported capabilities

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of nemesis could conceivably explain

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many of the logic-defying elements

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experienced and reported during both the

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events many but not all first of all

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development of Nemesis reportedly began

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in 2014 the East Coast incident or

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incidents in question reportedly

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occurred in 2015 and remember as I

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mentioned the Navy claims that tested

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nemesis systems during a war game in

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2015 however the tic-tac video from the

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West Coast incident reportedly occurred

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in 2004

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then there's the issue of eyewitness

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testimony these UFOs weren't just seen

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on radar and gun cameras pilots

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reportedly witnessed these things with

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their eyes yes nemesis seems to utilize

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physical unmanned vehicles to perform

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its trickery but we don't know the

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flight capabilities of these craft or

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even the full capabilities of Nemesis

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for that matter it's conceivable that

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the system is capable of using

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projection technology to visually

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display false craft as well spoofing is

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the name of the game and the goal is to

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create as much confusion as possible

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nemesis is just another piece of the

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puzzle it's one more possibility we can

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consider when trying to make sense of

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the Navy UFO videos or any other UFO

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case and it certainly doesn't mean we

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discount the possibility that what is

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actually in those videos is something

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far stranger but it definitely behooves

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responsible UFO researchers to be aware

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of existing human technologies that

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could potentially offer explanations for

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well citizens that's going to do it for

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publish new episodes you can always find

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the show at Red Planet TV because

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unknown is a rogue planet production

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replenish evie is your home for all the

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strange hey thanks to our talented

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friend and fellow rogue planet Eire

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caleb hanks for the show's intro and

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outro music check out all his work at

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buckler Chronicles com thanks again for

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hanging out with me today I'm Jason

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McClellan do me a favor friends always

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treat the UFO subject with the cautious

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and responsible skepticism it deserves

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question everything had the courage to

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form your own opinions keep truth as the

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focus of your quest even if the truth

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conflicts with your opinions and of